Lifting a B310, Gambler 500, Oregon Rally car

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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby DRIVEN » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:49 am

Don't get much more basic than an A-series. Enjoy the mental vacation. And good luck on your search for a cheap transmission. I highly recommend a dogleg if you can find one. They aren't ideal for a strong L motor but they're great behind an A. Considerably stronger than the the more common 60 that seems to fetch a premium.
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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby flatcat19 » Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:11 am

What year and body is this 210?
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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby Laecaon » Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:44 am

79 hatch.

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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby flatcat19 » Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:06 pm

Are you guys gonna rally and thrash on it?


Can I get the rear tail light surround before it's broke?
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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby Laecaon » Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:21 pm

Not rally and thrash on it. Just have fun. His real DD is an 07 Impreza (base model). He just likes gravel and dirt roads, and going off the beaten path. But right now he needs it be a second car.
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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby datsunfreak » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:51 pm

Any progress?
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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby Laecaon » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:22 pm

Um, short block is back together...
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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby datsunfreak » Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:15 pm

I was more curious if you came up with a viable lifting option?
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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby Laecaon » Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:41 pm

Right now, looking at just swapping entire S13 front suspension under the car. Looks like Im getting everything except knuckles for free. The longer LCAs will help with camber. Just need to figure out a taller strut, not sure if S13 is taller or not... The rear, I think we will play around with how much lift we can get out of the stock links before the axle moves too far forward. I have a plan, but first engine needs to go back in. We are kinda thinking maybe a 2inch lift at max.
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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby datsunfreak » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:00 pm

Laecaon » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:41 am wrote: Just need to figure out a taller strut, not sure if S13 is taller or not...


In my experience the B310 already has the longest strut of any RWD Datsun/Nissan.
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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby Laecaon » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:55 pm

But say you swap in a 510 top hat? That has got to be good for at least an inch...
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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby datsunfreak » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:21 pm

Laecaon » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:55 pm wrote:But say you swap in a 510 top hat? That has got to be good for at least an inch...


I'm 95% sure the bolt pattern is different.

Now if you want to redrill the holes in the car...
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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby datsunfreak » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:26 pm

If you can find the old school Moog camber/caster plates, those are good for a 3/4" lift.


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And let you dial out some of the positive camber gain...


Now that and the 510 top hats, and you got something... :thumbs:
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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby 510freak » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:43 pm

Moogs are cool!
Old school,
I had a off road 510 back in the early 90s,that damn thing went just about any where, no issues,hooked up headlights,so they only would cme on(like daytime running lights now with a twist) :fyea:
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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby datsunfreak » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:13 pm

As a side note...

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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby DRIVEN » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:30 pm

:fry:
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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby izzo » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:24 am

Holy shit :rofl:

That thing is seriously lifted. What all did you end up doing? Someone had spacers in the springs on my wives b210 on the front, then longer shackles on the back. All that to fit slotted mags :|
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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby datsunfreak » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:16 pm

izzo wrote:That thing is seriously lifted. What all did you end up doing? Someone had spacers in the springs on my wives b210 on the front, then longer shackles on the back.


It's important to note a 1200 is fairly tall stock. Taller than almost any other Datsun. :rofl:

Front is sort of a 2" body lift. We used spacers between the crossmember and frame, spaced the TC rod mounts down 2", then made the strut housings 2" longer and used longer inserts with longer springs. All of the front suspension hard parts came from a 280Z, which had fairly long struts anyway, and it widened the front track 3.5" total. Total lift is around 3.5".

In the back we used an '81 200SX rear axle, which widened the rear track 3" total. Since it is a 4 link (not leaf spring) with coil springs, it was fairly easy to lift. We did build the body mounts for the control arms a little lower down than usual for some extra lift. Then we used 280Z front springs (trimmed down a bit) and made upper spring mounts on the 1200 frame rails. Only other thing was to modify the shock mounts on the diff to work with the stock upper shock mounts. Total lift is around 4".

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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby izzo » Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:10 pm

Ha, simple as fuck yet affected.

Do you have any more pics of the 4 link setup? Keep forgetting about this thread :rofl:


Also I know the shocks will keep the axle from traveling to far downwards, but is there anything else like some kind of strap or chain or something for extra "just in case". Be the shits if you came off a jump and the axle went to far down and the springs went out :|
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Re: Lifting a B310

Postby datsunfreak » Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:49 pm

izzo wrote:Do you have any more pics of the 4 link setup? Keep forgetting about this thread :rofl:


Some more here:
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Also I know the shocks will keep the axle from traveling to far downwards, but is there anything else like some kind of strap or chain or something for extra "just in case". Be the shits if you came off a jump and the axle went to far down and the springs went out :|


They can't actually come down that far because of the shocks, but we will be safety wiring them in place anyway. :thumbs:

And not jumping. :rofl:
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