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RedBanner's To Blame For This. . . :)

Postby METSystem » Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:59 am

Imagine buying a yellow 620, something cheap, and something for the wife to drive to work. But she's a little cautious, yet curious of the little truck. So, we head off to a remote part of the Vancouver Mall parking lot, and as we change drivers a little green Datsun 1200 (I think it was a 1200) pulls along side and offers help. . . I'm married with children. . . I'm beyond help! But it was great to know, there is a resource and a group out there that is supporting the little ole Datsun's and their owners. This is the message I sent to RedBanner after he gave me the URL to this website, and after I joined up. . . . He suggested I post it in the open forum! So. . . It's his fault! :roll: Oh! And it's nice to meet you Guys too!

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Hey, thanks again for the stop by. . . I have a feeling that i may have found my oil leak. . . Found nothing on the starter/passenger side, but the smoke billows at shutdown around the carb/driver side, so I'm guesstimating a rocker arm cover leak on the carb side. Who knows for sure until I get in it.

I bought the thing a week ago today on Monday Aug12th in Beaverton for $350.00, it had been parked since November. So, I took it to Les Schwab to make sure the brakes were safe to drive down the Sylvan hills and we got it home Wednesday evening. We took the ugly-ass camper shell off yesterday, and the push/grill guard is coming off soon too. But before I go to far, I've gotta make sure that oil leak is solved!

The wife won't drive a stick, so finding this as an automatic was great! It runs pretty doggone well considering it's 36 years old! Dad had a 76 620 longbed 4speed that I learned to drive a stick in. I had a red 78 620 in high school that was an automatic. Bought it in 1979 and sold it in 1982. The second 620 I got was another 78, purchased in 1984 and lost due to theft in late 85 or early 86. It too was yellow, but was a 5 speed. Very fond memories of all three of those trucks!

I'm planning on making this my toy as well as her daily driver to work. . . From Vancouver to Emanuel Hospital is about 15 miles one way. Our Cherokee gets about 15mpg. So once I have this thing solidified (i.e. fix the vacuum leak in the brake booster, fix oil leak, change hoses and thermostat, get a new belt installed, get the grill guard gone, get the bulbs changed that are non-op, get the window washer working again, AND find out why the speedometer is non-op) then she can drive it and save us some money on gas! What you saw was her driving it in the Vancouver Mall parking lot for the first time. Like I said, she's used to driving a Jeep Cherokee. . . She thought it was fun!

See? There is hope for female-kind afterall! :)

Nice meeting you RedBanner! I hope this truck doesn't end up being a pile!

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Re: RedBanner's To Blame For This. . . :)

Postby flatcat19 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:13 am

You wouldn't be the first.

Banner is to blame for a lot of things around here.

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Postby 510freak » Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:38 am

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Postby draker » Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:59 am

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Re: RedBanner's To Blame For This. . . :)

Postby METSystem » Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:49 pm

I have a question, I've got an oil leak, I think from the valve cover, I've got the new gasket for it, but no where in my Chilton or Haines does it give me a listed torque for those bolts. To loose, and they leak. Too tight, and they leak. . . It's a 1977 620 with an L20B.
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Re: RedBanner's To Blame For This. . . :)

Postby METSystem » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:07 pm

METSystem wrote:I have a question, I've got an oil leak, I think from the valve cover, I've got the new gasket for it, but no where in my Chilton or Haines does it give me a listed torque for those bolts. To loose, and they leak. Too tight, and they leak. . . It's a 1977 620 with an L20B.


According to the Felpro packaging. . . 30 lbs. Just in case anyone besides me wanted to know.
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Re: RedBanner's To Blame For This. . . :)

Postby flatcat19 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:18 pm

I only use a torque wrench for head gaskets and wheels.

Snug is snug.
Loose parts fall off.



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Postby izzo » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:32 pm

Redbanner (adam) is a good guy. Beyond a kick ass friend, he knows a thing or two about datsuns, too. Hang around him a few times and your sides will hurt from laughing. Dude's a riot!


Valve cover gasket is easy enough to replace. Just think, they normally only start leaking once :troll:
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Postby Laecaon » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:45 pm

Just go around tightening the bolts 5 times in a row. Youll notice that after tightening, others will seem loose.

Being that they are M6x1.0 threads, torque level is minimal. Like 9-12 ish.
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Postby flatcat19 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:47 pm

Banner is one of the greatest Datsun people around, aside from being a great guy.


The title, coincidentally, is so fitting given "RedBanner Made Me Do It."
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Postby flatcat19 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:48 pm

30 ft. lbs seems like way too much torque into an aluminum head.
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Postby Eagle_Adam » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:17 am

welcome to the chaos of NWD
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Postby RedBanner » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:14 am

Hey man. Great introduction.
Welcome aboard!

im drasticly overrated, just choose to associate with the right crowd.
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wayno » Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:40 pm wrote:Everything is either tight or actually rubbing.

Taterhead » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:29 pm wrote:Datsun gods will give you one working gauge, gasoline or speedometer; you can't have both.
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Postby izzo » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:50 pm

flatcat19 wrote:30 ft. lbs seems like way too much torque into an aluminum head.

Laecaon wrote:Just go around tightening the bolts 5 times in a row. Youll notice that after tightening, others will seem loose.

Being that they are M6x1.0 threads, torque level is minimal. Like 9-12 ish.



I tried doing this one. Book said 10-13 lbs for valve cover bolts. I set my torque wrench at 10lbs, and broke the first bolt. Never did it again :lol:

Only bolts I torque now are head bolts, rod bolts, crank bolts... The rest get snugged down good and have a lock washer or whatever it should have.
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Postby 510freak » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:50 pm

Must be cork gasket?
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Postby METSystem » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:58 pm

510freak wrote:Must be cork gasket?


Yeah, it is. And I have a worse leak now than I ever had! Time to do it again! :x
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Postby 510freak » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:04 pm

METSystem wrote:
510freak wrote:Must be cork gasket?


Yeah, it is. And I have a worse leak now than I ever had! Time to do it again! :x


The cork ones are notorious for leaking, get a neoprene(I think that is what it is called)
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Postby flatcat19 » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:04 pm

METSystem wrote:
510freak wrote:Must be cork gasket?


Yeah, it is. And I have a worse leak now than I ever had! Time to do it again! :x


Sorry to hear.

When tightening don't go just around tightening every bolt.
Start with the center two, one on each side.
Then cross back and forth working your way away from the last bolt tightened.
You'll end up making "x"s back and forth.
Light, even "snugness" all the way around.
Your last bolts will end up being the furthest away from each other.

I hate cork gaskets. Always have. Always have had problems.
I find with cork I end up using red gasket spray for a better seal.

You'll get there.
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Re: RedBanner's To Blame For This. . . :)

Postby Danfiveten » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:48 pm

RedBanner wrote:Hey man. Great introduction.
Welcome aboard!

im drasticly overrated, just choose to associate with the right crowd.
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How can that be when you have such a epic beard, nothing about you is overrated. One of the coolest datsun guys i met in a long time. And sorry if i hurt anyones feelings by saying that :fyea:
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Postby RedBanner » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:39 am

Autozone, costless, or oreillys should be able.to get you a felpro v.c. gasket. Only way to go man.
wayno » Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:40 pm wrote:Everything is either tight or actually rubbing.

Taterhead » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:29 pm wrote:Datsun gods will give you one working gauge, gasoline or speedometer; you can't have both.

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