Wynona the wagon's resurrection!
- HRH
- Posts: 2366
- Joined: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:54 pm
- Cars: Lots
- Location: Near flatcat
- Has thanked: 147 times
- Been thanked: 649 times
Re: Wynona the wagon's resurrection!
Bought the book, "How to modify your Bosch fuel injection system" from 1992 off Amazon. I can tune the car to not miss in mid range, but it's overly too rich. If I lean out the mixture screw, it runs great until 3250 and 3750 rpm under light load. Thinking I may have to adjust the trigger wheel, but I'm now waiting until I get that book. Then I'll read through it like the Datsun bible and figure out the correct way to fiddle with this archaic system. Really want to be able to get it dialed in without going to an expensive (better) new system.
"Self proclaimed most active poster on NWD." - Me
- DRIVEN
- Posts: 7696
- Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:05 pm
- Location: I've been everywhere
- Has thanked: 1204 times
- Been thanked: 1180 times
Re: Wynona the wagon's resurrection!
Dedication
When the only tool you have is a hammer every problem starts to look like a hippy.
- Taterhead
- Posts: 2488
- Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:18 am
- Cars: '71 510 - Mine
'72 510 - Sons - Location: Central Alabama
- Has thanked: 1350 times
- Been thanked: 232 times
Re: Wynona the wagon's resurrection!
I keep reading you referring to "the Datsun Bible". Is that like a notebook you have full of info or is there an actual book you're talking about?
Possibly the "how to keep your Datsun/Nissan alive" book?
Possibly the "how to keep your Datsun/Nissan alive" book?
- HRH
- Posts: 2366
- Joined: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:54 pm
- Cars: Lots
- Location: Near flatcat
- Has thanked: 147 times
- Been thanked: 649 times
Re: Wynona the wagon's resurrection!
No, I have the Datsun Bible. This is a different book. "How to Tune and Modify Bosch Fuel Injection" by Ben Watson. WELL worth the read for our archaic early 80s EFI systems. I thought it was missing the information I had until I scanned the glossary more. The modification section is short and at the end of the book, but VERY helpful. It mentions specifically the AFM going lean at 3000-3500 rpm with performance modifications due to the AFM being calibrated for nice EPA regulations. It confirmed I do need to lessen the spring tension on the potentiometer spring. The other option is verifying or changing pin positions and using a different airflow meter from another application provided the rate of change is similar enough. I suspect I won't have to do that since my motor is hot, but not a race motor.
I was squealing with glee this morning for the simple information that verified the problems I've been having and outlined how to start fixing them. I was on the right track, and this book confirmed it!
I was squealing with glee this morning for the simple information that verified the problems I've been having and outlined how to start fixing them. I was on the right track, and this book confirmed it!
"Self proclaimed most active poster on NWD." - Me
- Taterhead
- Posts: 2488
- Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:18 am
- Cars: '71 510 - Mine
'72 510 - Sons - Location: Central Alabama
- Has thanked: 1350 times
- Been thanked: 232 times
Re: Wynona the wagon's resurrection!
Yeah I knew the fuel injection book was different, I've just never seen a book named "the Datsun Bible" and was wondering about it.
And sometimes there is no better feeling than confirmation of something you already suspected.
And sometimes there is no better feeling than confirmation of something you already suspected.
- HRH
- Posts: 2366
- Joined: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:54 pm
- Cars: Lots
- Location: Near flatcat
- Has thanked: 147 times
- Been thanked: 649 times
Re: Wynona the wagon's resurrection!
Yeah, I fiddled with it a little, still haven't gotten it as good as I want it. Rather annoying with the information I have. Taking a break from her this weekend, I'll fiddle with her in a while and see if I can make her perform correctly.
"Self proclaimed most active poster on NWD." - Me
- HRH
- Posts: 2366
- Joined: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:54 pm
- Cars: Lots
- Location: Near flatcat
- Has thanked: 147 times
- Been thanked: 649 times
Re: Wynona the wagon's resurrection!
Fucking EFI is fucking pissing me off. I'm getting close to yanking the head and filling in injector holes and doing dual SUs that I know work and are bone fucking simple.
"Self proclaimed most active poster on NWD." - Me
- wayno
- Posts: 5309
- Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:44 pm
- Location: Vancouver WA
- Has thanked: 430 times
- Been thanked: 1295 times
Re: Wynona the wagon's resurrection!
I thought you knew him better than that, he's done a lot of impossible stuff.
“The difference between genius and stupidly is that genius has its limits” Albert Einstein
- flatcat19
- Posts: 5233
- Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:53 am
- Title: AKA Smoke
- Cars: Smaller. Better. Slower. Lower.
- Location: Where you aren't.
- Has thanked: 12 times
- Been thanked: 32 times
Re: Wynona the wagon's resurrection!
:eyeroll:
I know damn well he can do it. I was hoping it would rile him up to do it already.
I was egging him on at the last gatoland to install triple side drafts.
But I still don't think Matt can do it. No heart.
I know damn well he can do it. I was hoping it would rile him up to do it already.
I was egging him on at the last gatoland to install triple side drafts.
But I still don't think Matt can do it. No heart.
- wayno
- Posts: 5309
- Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:44 pm
- Location: Vancouver WA
- Has thanked: 430 times
- Been thanked: 1295 times
Re: Wynona the wagon's resurrection!
“The difference between genius and stupidly is that genius has its limits” Albert Einstein
- HRH
- Posts: 2366
- Joined: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:54 pm
- Cars: Lots
- Location: Near flatcat
- Has thanked: 147 times
- Been thanked: 649 times
Re: Wynona the wagon's resurrection!
I'm taking this Sunday to do my last fiddling with the EFI in an effort to get it to work. However, I have a working set of dual SUs from the 280z racecar before it was turboed, and they allegedly work fine. And I love SUs because they're simple. And I'd gain horsepower due to much bigger intakes and shorter runners for high end hp. I'll lose out on mileage by about 4 mpg, but I have everything to convert Wynona to carbs. And really, if I still maintain 20-22 mpg, that wouldn't upset me too much if I gained 20 hp, which is probably about right considering there won't be a restrictive air flow meter in the way.
We will see what Sunday brings. I may just go for power and old-school it.
We will see what Sunday brings. I may just go for power and old-school it.
"Self proclaimed most active poster on NWD." - Me
- Taterhead
- Posts: 2488
- Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:18 am
- Cars: '71 510 - Mine
'72 510 - Sons - Location: Central Alabama
- Has thanked: 1350 times
- Been thanked: 232 times
- HRH
- Posts: 2366
- Joined: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:54 pm
- Cars: Lots
- Location: Near flatcat
- Has thanked: 147 times
- Been thanked: 649 times
Re: Wynona the wagon's resurrection!
Lol, I have a few things to try, tomorrow is a car day. Wynona and Rosebud. (Rx7) I'm still going to try to use the efi because it would be easier, but I do like sus. We'll see. Sorry I'm missing the BBQ! Is canby this weekend or next?
"Self proclaimed most active poster on NWD." - Me
- flatcat19
- Posts: 5233
- Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:53 am
- Title: AKA Smoke
- Cars: Smaller. Better. Slower. Lower.
- Location: Where you aren't.
- Has thanked: 12 times
- Been thanked: 32 times
Re: Wynona the wagon's resurrection!
This weekend. Draker has a live stream going on again. Link is on the Canby thread over there.
- HRH
- Posts: 2366
- Joined: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:54 pm
- Cars: Lots
- Location: Near flatcat
- Has thanked: 147 times
- Been thanked: 649 times
Re: Wynona the wagon's resurrection!
Checked it out, looks wet! I drove Rosebud down from Cheney tonight. Carbs work great. Think that's going to dictate which direction the wagon is headed.
"Self proclaimed most active poster on NWD." - Me