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Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:09 pm
by draker
(6) Externally Stepped Scraper.

To reduce the number of compression rings, a stepped
scraper is used which acts both as a compression ring and as an oil-control scraper ring (Fig.
3.94B). The reduced width of the working face increases pressure against the cylinder walls.
This gives improved sealing and scraping without excessively stressing the ring.


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Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:12 pm
by draker
I guess it's cool. These were listed at premium piston rings.

Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:14 am
by Laecaon
Clevite is a good brand. I have seen many reports of awesomeness. Things like, their bearings have a tighter tolerance than OEM Nissan (KA24 application). And that their 77 series can take a serious beating, reports of oil running dry and the bearings taking all the damage and not the crank, and another report of a fram oil filter imploding into the oil system of a CA18DET and imbedding into the bearings, but the crank didnt even need a polish (but got one for safe measure).

Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 7:20 am
by DRIVEN
All good quality parts there. I've run Clevite for years (decades?) with great success -- including some questionable patches that seemed to hold up. Great product.

Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 7:40 pm
by draker
Cleaned the block inside and out. Degreased it and cleaned the gasket surfaces. Called everywhere around here to rent a ball hone. No one had one to rent.. I ended up using my stone style hone. It worked okay. I didn't go ape shit.. put a little cross-hatch in the cylinders and called it good. I probably could have went a bit more but whatever.

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Installed the main bearings. Checked clearances, everything was looking good right under .0020 on all bearings.
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I was installed the rear main side seals.. wtf. What a major bitch.. is there a trick to this? I had to pull the rear main cap and clean all the RTV off before it dried and made everything worse. I'll try again tomorrow.

Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 1:54 pm
by draker
Anyone happen to have an extra set of these? Looking for the both side gaskets and spacers. Preferably the thin metal kind. I believe the ones that came in the DNJ kit are too thick. They don't have the thin metal plates that you slide down the middle. They just have moulded round metal strips in the middle. I pretty much fucked the ones I have up and they are unusable. I know most people throw these out since they don't remove the main cap when doing the rear main... I know I used to have a set and I was like.. wtf don't need these.

Please, if you have some I'd love to take them off your hand. I don't want to buy another rear main kit just for the little gaskets.

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Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:06 pm
by 510freak
If no one near you has any, I can check the shop tomorrow.
I had some, But cannot remember if they were used in browns canby(12) motor rebuild or not.

Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:49 pm
by draker
I know most people probably just toss them in the trash.... I know we have a hoarder that has a set or two.... I had them for months from when I regasketed the l16... Then I was Wtf when will I ever use these... In the trash they went. :fuu:

Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:07 pm
by Laecaon
Eagle Adam tends to hoard gaskets. But he is in the middle of moving...

Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:36 pm
by draker
I got a bit stir crazy and just went and bought a rear main kit... New seals were much smaller and went in very easy.

Warning for those thinking about the DNJ kit. I'll report and other weird findings as I go on.

Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:47 am
by izzo
i do believe this isn't the first time I've heard something about a kit. but i can't recall what kit or what I heard, just something was up. i think it was them..




either way. Love the progress dude. Open heart surgery. Omnomnom.

Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:39 am
by Laecaon
Ive always just used the Felpro stuff. I think the ITM kits are decent as well.

Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:52 am
by draker
Laecaon » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:39 am wrote:Ive always just used the Felpro stuff. I think the ITM kits are decent as well.
Me too. Rockauto didn't have any that I saw. Other places were asking double or triple the price of the DNJ kit. We'll see if it was a mistake..

Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:21 am
by DRIVEN
I've used DNJ in the past. Don't remember running in to any snags like that. Quality seemed fine.

Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:58 am
by draker
DRIVEN » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:21 am wrote:I've used DNJ in the past. Don't remember running in to any snags like that. Quality seemed fine.
Yeah, I read a few good reviews for the DNJ kit.

Here is the difference. DNJ on the LEFT, felpro on the RIGHT
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Failed attempt.. but good shot of a street sign.
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The workbench
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Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:25 pm
by draker
Edited post ^^

Felpro on the RIGHT. DNJ on the LEFT

Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:12 pm
by draker
I got my seat skins today. I haven't test fit them but they are definitely looking good. Also got a set of matching wheel well covers. I'm pretty excited to get them back on the seats and installed but I need to finish this engine up first.

I'll grab some pictures and get them posted.

Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:15 pm
by izzo
These the ones you've been waiting 5 years for?

Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:26 pm
by draker
izzo » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:15 pm wrote:These the ones you've been waiting 5 years for?

draker » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:56 pm wrote:Tore both the recaro seats down and removed both seat skins.

I payed a visit to a local upholstery shop that is going to make new skins for the head rests and bolsters. Should match a bit better with the rear seat and door panels. Also going to have the shop make me some wheel well covers at the same time. Can't wait!!

Although, reinstalling the seat skins is going to be a mofo'in bitch. I can tell already.

Yeah, it's been a while...

I'd like to say it was worth the wait.. but that was a long wait.

Re: The forgotten Beige 69 510 build - NWD edition

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:33 pm
by izzo
6-7 months, 5 years... Same thing when you're waiting on something :rofl:


Glad you got them dude