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all in
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:39 pm
by datmo
Welp, forgot to post that I got a wagon after my 68 on this forum. I seriously never noticed.
I'm gonna do everything I wanted to do to my last dime this time around... so i bought a shell.
This is my 72 goon that I plan to keep forever.
Here's some base pics.
you get the idea...
But, here's a few pics of what I've been up to that I did not post on ratsun.
btw, if anyone has some tie rods or some 280zx hubs, please for fucks sake, sell them to me.
Re: all in
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:48 pm
by wayno
Very rare valve cover, don't see them very often.
If you ever want to sell it, let me know.
We was wondering why you wanted the front suspension stuff.
That silver paint looks good IMO.
Re: all in
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:28 pm
by izzo
keep forever till you don't do your brakes again
Re: all in
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:50 pm
by flatcat19
W58 head. Is it an L20B block also?
Re: all in
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:56 pm
by wayno
It looks like one to me, the case vent is pointed up(L20b), and it has no oil dipstick hole on the driverside(Z22) even though it has the place for it, so i would guess late L20b.
Re: all in
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:10 am
by DRIVEN
Body looks really nice. And the sexiest of all colors.
Re: all in
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:02 am
by K_trip
Goons are so cool - this looks like a great start
!
Re: all in
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:30 pm
by datmo
Well the brakes didn't necessarily fail. But in a sense, they were not perfect.
flatcat19 wrote:W58 head. Is it an L20B block also?
yes it is.
DRIVEN wrote:Body looks really nice. And the sexiest of all colors.
thanks but i MAY be painting it in awhile. of course I'll make sure I drive it a bit with the orange.
I think that white is gonna be the color of the engine bay.
I think it'll look so clean. and my other option was black but that doesn't seem to be clean to me?
K_trip wrote:Goons are so cool - this looks like a great start
!
thanks man!
Re: all in
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:34 pm
by datmo
I need to order some parts to finish up my engine and a few other things but to verify, a u95 block came out of an early 610?
I need a new thermostat housing and what not so I just needed to know what it came from to look on rock auto.
I need to do some research and know what my tranny came from. I need new bearings since it's already out.
I can't read my damn tranny but the bell housing say something like an L6 or 26?
Re: all in
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:32 pm
by Laecaon
All L thermostats are the same, just pick your temperature. Also don't refer to your block as a u95. Its a L20b. And then you have whatever head, and regardless of those things they all take the same thermostat.
and I'm not sure what you mean by tranny being out, and needing bearings, but specifics of the issue will help diagnose and find the correct parts. Trannys aren't really stamped well.
Re: all in
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:09 pm
by wayno
I cannot agree with you about all the L block thermostats being the same, the early L16 thermostat has a hole in it because the L16 thermostat housing didn't have a bypass hose, while the L20b with the bypass hose didn't have that hole in the thermostat, the thermostat you use depends on what thermostat housing/piping one uses.
Laecaon » Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:32 pm wrote:All L thermostats are the same, just pick your temperature. Also don't refer to your block as a u95. Its a L20b. And then you have whatever head, and regardless of those things they all take the same thermostat.
and I'm not sure what you mean by tranny being out, and needing bearings, but specifics of the issue will help diagnose and find the correct parts. Trannys aren't really stamped well.
Re: all in
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:36 am
by Laecaon
Or just use one with a hole and it works in all...
Or I dont have a hole, just a jiggle valve and never have had an issue... and I dont have the bypass...
Or just look at this Genuine Nissan Thermostat that work is all "L, Z, A, E, CA" and it has a jiggle valve!!!
Or if you go to Rockauto...and look at a Stant 180 degree (13858) and look at the application list... its good for all of these! and many more other non Nissans...
NISSAN 1200 (1971 - 1973)
NISSAN 1600 (1967 - 1970)
NISSAN 200SX (1977 - 1988)
NISSAN 210 (1979 - 1982)
NISSAN 240Z (1970 - 1973)
NISSAN 260Z (1974 - 1975)
NISSAN 280Z (1975 - 1978)
NISSAN 280ZX (1979 - 1983)
NISSAN 310 (1979 - 1982)
NISSAN 510 (1968 - 1981)
NISSAN 520 PICKUP (1967 - 1968)
NISSAN 521 PICKUP (1969 - 1972)
NISSAN 610 (1973 - 1976)
NISSAN 620 PICKUP (1972 - 1979)
NISSAN 710 (1974 - 1977)
NISSAN 720 PICKUP (1980 - 1986)
NISSAN 810 (1977 - 1981)
NISSAN B210 (1974 - 1978)
NISSAN D21 PICKUP (1986 - 1989)
NISSAN F10 (1976 - 1978)
NISSAN MAXIMA (1982 - 1984)
NISSAN PATHFINDER (1987 - 1988)
NISSAN PULSAR 1983
NISSAN PULSAR NX (1983 - 1989)
NISSAN SENTRA (1982 - 1988)
NISSAN STANZA (1982 - 1989)
NISSAN VAN (1987 - 1988)
So I digress, they are all the same. They all come with a jiggle valve. If you want a "hole" you have to modify it yourself.
Re: all in
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:05 am
by datmo
Good info. thanks guys. also does an l16 oil pump fit onto an l20?
I'm trying to find my old one to test it but don't know where the hell i put it...
Re: all in
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:35 am
by Laecaon
Yes, Oil Pumps are the same. You can even use the Z series, and even the KA single cam oil pump. The 280ZX Turbo and KA24E (single cam) are both high volume units.
Re: all in
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:16 pm
by Ni10
got to agree with DRIVEN. I'm for keeping a car it's stock color cause it makes it easier to paint so it will match the interior and door jams and old vehicles are worth more when kept stock. That I've learned when into muscle cars.
But it's your car, your money and your time.
carry on, looking forward to seeing how your Datsun turns out.
Re: all in
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:48 pm
by datmo
Laecaon » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:35 pm wrote:Yes, Oil Pumps are the same. You can even use the Z series, and even the KA single cam oil pump. The 280ZX Turbo and KA24E (single cam) are both high volume units.
Thanks. works out perfect.
Ni10 wrote:
got to agree with DRIVEN. I'm for keeping a car it's stock color cause it makes it easier to paint so it will match the interior and door jams and old vehicles are worth more when kept stock. That I've learned when into muscle cars.
But it's your car, your money and your time.
carry on, looking forward to seeing how your Datsun turns out.
I really am to but I've really wanted to build a datsun a certain way but never had the money/time/experience.
But I'm actually planning to paint everywhere in the car.
I'm gonna restrip it when I do paint it because I want to redo my interior anyways.
Re: all in
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:56 pm
by DRIVEN
I was actually being sarcastic when I said that -- since mine is the same color. Personally, I never really liked it but when they are shiny that color isn't bad. Like you, I planned a color change inside and out. Now that a few years have gone by I'm rethinking that idea. First, Ni10 is correct, stock color is best for investment reasons. Second, it's a bunch of work to CORRECTLY do a color change. Most people don't go 110% to make it right and the result is a hackish paint job. As stated earlier, it's your car and your money. Just be honest with yourself about you ability to get the job done -- whether you do it all yourself or pay someone else to do it. Your car deserves it.
Re: all in
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:30 pm
by datmo
DRIVEN » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:56 pm wrote:I was actually being sarcastic when I said that -- since mine is the same color. Personally, I never really liked it but when they are shiny that color isn't bad. Like you, I planned a color change inside and out. Now that a few years have gone by I'm rethinking that idea. First, Ni10 is correct, stock color is best for investment reasons. Second, it's a bunch of work to
CORRECTLY do a color change. Most people don't go 110% to make it right and the result is a hackish paint job. As stated earlier, it's your car and your money. Just be honest with yourself about you ability to get the job done -- whether you do it all yourself or pay someone else to do it. Your car deserves it.
Well I plan to do it to the best of my abilities.
I want my engine bay white to match my color scheme so it should be nice.
I'm hopefully planning to get primer tomorrow if all goes well.
I'm also waiting on some parts to come and I can install my exedy clutch
Re: all in
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:30 pm
by datmo
Here's some updates.
I got the engine but mounts were way too thick so i have to get some nos ones.
The bay is just primered.
Also i put in because I'm moving and ill retake it out in a few weeks or so when I have time to finish it all up.
I also have the car on wheels.
Here's some pics of the updates.
Re: all in
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:50 pm
by wayno
It's looking good so far.