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my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:28 pm
by Eagle_Adam
heres the beginnings of the thread
http://community.ratsun.net/topic/50181 ... -dd/page-1
so, all of that ^^^ + we traded my brothers 620 for
came already set up for an L motor instead of an A motor, and it has a 5 speed in it, and it came with the parts to put together an LZ22!!!
so now i have to sit my bro down to figure out whats what
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:40 pm
by RedBanner
What year is it?
The other one is a 74 so it has little brakes and rear end. ..... but no sunroof...
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:54 pm
by Eagle_Adam
this ones a 75 or so the ad says......
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:15 pm
by RedBanner
Ok. So all the susspention bits will go right into the 74, wich is like 200# lighter, has no rust, or sunroof.
That would be my suggestion. The 74 is super solid if I remember correctly. Not saying the 75 isnt nice. But sunroofs are a huge consern for me every time.
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:28 pm
by Eagle_Adam
ya..... i didnt know it had one till i got there and i already had a tow truck en route...
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:43 pm
by RedBanner
3rd option. I have a very solid auto coupe shell in my garage. Just sayin.
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:47 pm
by Taterhead
The pay it forward one? Do eet!
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:56 pm
by Eagle_Adam
RedBanner wrote:3rd option. I have a very solid auto coupe shell in my garage. Just sayin.
my brother doesn't have the $ or time for a build, i just need him in a running B210 hatch the easiest way possible
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:18 pm
by RedBanner
Ok. So if the motor isnt put together I say swap it all into the 74, front suspention and rear suspention and build the motor.
If the motor is put together... then I guess I would button it up and run it. Meanwhile polishing up the other chassi. The 74 has a h145. Good for 70ish #s or torque, the 75 has an h150 good for about 90#s of torque
The 74 front struts springs and brakes are 1200 units. Realy light but tiny brakes.
The 75 has slightly better stuff.
But the big deal is body construction. The 74 is alittle bit more flexi, but alot lighter than the 75. 200# or so. And thats like 10+ free horse power, and its easier on the diff an h150 would stand up good to the lz for a bit. The sectret would be small tires. The smaller the better. Light wheels. Could be super crazy.
I know 10 hp or so doesnt seem like much,
But think of it this way, that 10hp is being used up in the drivetrain to just move the thing, putting strain on all those components to get it done. Since the rear end is rated for around what your putting to it, might wanna make it as easy on that thing as possible.
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:57 pm
by izzo
and trust me, that 10hp is a big difference. You'll feel it up hills.
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:13 pm
by Gray
You can always swap the central pumpkin from the h150 into the h145 I know on the 1200 it needs a spacer, can't remember on the B210 one if it does or not, may need to see the 1200 wiki. However the B210 H145 uses the 1200 style driveshaft flange, so you need the original or a 1200 driveshaft.
Also loose the shitty parkbench bumpers and you shave another ~100 plus pounds off. The later 77-78 bumpers bolt right on, look better (tighter to the body) and are much much lighter (still kinda heavy compared to 1200 or 510 bumpers though).
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:58 pm
by RedBanner
The b 210 h145 is exactly like the 1200 unit. So you would need a 2mm spacer and 2 gaskets. But you can just swap the whole rear end right in. Very quick.
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:00 pm
by RedBanner
Yeah the 74 bumpers are tucked good but the inner core is cast iron or some shit. Super heavy. Id just strp the cores out of the 74 ones then there super light. And tuck good.
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:39 pm
by B-keeper
Use the 74 . It does not have the CAT hump in the floor. fitting seats are much easier
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:32 pm
by Gray
B-keeper wrote:Use the 74 . It does not have the CAT hump in the floor. fitting seats are much easier
Engine bay is cleaner too as engine bay relay box isn't until 75, also no fuel tank return, and the interior trim is just slightly different.
The weight and CAT hump really are the biggest deals.
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:37 pm
by Gray
RedBanner wrote:Yeah the 74 bumpers are tucked good but the inner core is cast iron or some shit. Super heavy. Id just strp the cores out of the 74 ones then there super light. And tuck good.
Never thought of that... I like it. I just used the 78's because I liked the chrome look better, it was lighter, and I got a really nice set super cheap. The mounting points being further into the bumper itself was just a bonus. The bumper absorbers on the 74-75 are shorter to compensate for that different mounting points. Pulls it in an extra 2 inches or so but still lets the bumper function. The parkbench bumpers do work good though, definitely saved my car's ass (literally) at least once due to this stupid women rearending me at a stop sign in her honda while talking on the phone. It hit hard and put a dent in the bumper shaped like the license plate but no damage to my car. She ended up just taking off really quick.
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:30 am
by izzo
That sucks. I removed my bumper since I fucked it up, but I drilled little holes in the bumper shocks and slid them in.
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:49 am
by RedBanner
Yeah the datsun park benches are hard frickin core. Ive pushed a bunch of stuff. And been bumped several times.
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:58 am
by Laecaon
My friend got rear ended in his 210, by a 00 Camry. He got out of his car, looked at the perfectly straight number, looked at the camrys bumper in the ground, and said, have a nice day.
Re: my little brothers B210 dream/ My nightmare....
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:07 pm
by Eagle_Adam
ok..... huge change of plans