1962 Datsun U320

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Re: 1962 Datsun U320

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Post by wayno » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:00 pm

I have decided that it does have a THIN black layer of paint on the bottom, it is not much and this is hard work cleaning this shit off, to paint it i would still have to sand blast it as that undercoating is not all coming off, it would take hours to sand blast even after removing 90+ percent of the crap on the bottom.
I have several hours into scraping so far and this is all that is done so far, I did some of the passenger side today.
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Post by wayno » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:48 pm

I went to the paint store today and talked to them about primer and the undercoating, I bought a half gallon sand-able primer and 2 cans of paintable undercoating, I will use my paint sprayer for the primer, that is no big deal except I will need to cover everything that I don't want over spray on, I need to by my Mini a real cover, and they said don't put the paintable rubberized undercoating on and then wait 2 months to paint it, I just read the directions and it said nothing about that, but I expect I will not paint the underside anyway as it was not painted at the factory, it appears to have been a black paint/primer with undercoating over it.

I also scraped off more undercoating, I hope this stuff is not asbestos.
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Post by wayno » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:36 pm

I pulled the tank and fill tube today so I could get above it, I then started scraping away in that area.
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I found rust in the seam between the cab and the box connection where it swelled the seam.
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Then I treated that with POR15.
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Re: 1962 Datsun U320

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Post by jtinluvr » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:35 pm

If your going to prime bare metal, you should use either etching primer (good), 2 part direct to metal poly primer (better) or epoxy (best), at least that is my opinion. You can buy etch primer in a rattle can but the others need a gun with a big tip as they are *thick*.

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Post by DRIVEN » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:51 pm

Looks good. Keep it up.
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Post by wayno » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:25 pm

jtinluvr wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:35 pm
If your going to prime bare metal, you should use either etching primer (good), 2 part direct to metal poly primer (better) or epoxy (best), at least that is my opinion. You can buy etch primer in a rattle can but the others need a gun with a big tip as they are *thick*.
I don't know what I am doing when it comes to painting, I just bought some Shop-Line JP202 2K Primer Surfacer for this truck as the good rattle can primer did not go far enough, is this what you are talking about Jtinluvr?
I tell them guys what I am doing and ask them what I need, I told them I liked the paint that they put in a rattle can as it goes on way better than I can with my paint gun, night and day difference, so I am painting this with their special rattle can paint, and I did the rockers on my Mini with that paint, it came out way better than any vehicle I have painted so far, regular rattle can paint does not go on like this rattle can paint of theirs does, but it takes 3 coats to cover, but there is very little over spray with their rattle can paint, it might be just the tip they use, I expect to spend a fortune on this paint, but I will be doing it one piece at a time, or one area at a time on the cab/box.
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Post by jtinluvr » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:41 pm

I am surprised a professional paint shop would recommend a primer/surfacer as a base coat to bare metal. That is what is supposed to go on top of a etch, DTM primer or epoxy and act as a means to fill any small imperfections before paint such as sand scratches. I am at the point where I just start with a epoxy primer whether it is over existing coatings or bare metal. If you are just going to do undercoating, for ease of use, SEM sells etch primer in rattle can. Follow the directions then spray on your undercoating. Save the JP202 for your bodywork. I’m sure the custom rattle can paint has not only a better nozzle, but way better paint also. Painting is a black science as so many variables affect the outcome. Air pressure, air temperature, tip size, fan setting, how far you pull the trigger, reducer speed, etc, etc, etc. While I don’t have all the answers, I have learned quite a bit having painted something like 15 cars over 30 years.

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Post by wayno » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:03 pm

I just told them what I was doing, where I am scraping the under coat off only scratches are getting to bare metal except where I pointed out the rusty line between the cab and box connection, I sand blasted that line down to bare metal and put POR15 over it, now I understand what POR15 is now, but I am not putting it on everything, just small spots, I sanded most of it off the inner fenders.
They did not sell me the primer for the underside of this truck, it is going to be used for everything that is going to be Ivory white, the undercoating I bought is paintable, but since I am not getting all the old undercoating off, I am going to spray this undercoating over that undercoating and the original primer that is showing.
Nothing is written in stone right now, but I have no interest in taking the bottom of that truck down to bare metal, that is just too much work for an area I cannot see, so unless someone can show me the truck will rot before I sell it or die that will likely be how I do it.
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Post by wayno » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:42 pm

I bought a cheap Air Needle Scaler today, I tried it and it seems to work good around captured nuts, corners, and them bead rolled parts in my floorboards to make them stiff, but I only tried it for a couple minutes, I had to leave and repair one of my old customers tile roof because he had someone else pressure wash it because I don't pressure wash them anymore, they broke a bunch of tiles and didn't repair them or did a crap job using silicone to repair them, there was likely 20 to 30 tiles broken, I used everything I had(12 tiles) to replace the un-repairable ones, and the rest I siliconed back together the best I could and he is going to buy more tiles for when he calls me again.
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Post by wayno » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:35 pm

So the guy that made the steering column grommet asked me for a photo of where this other rubber part goes on the transmission, so I took a photo of that hole and I decided to test fit the column grommet, it was a bitch to get it in there even without the column in place, the material needs to be slightly more flexible but I got it in there without ruining it.
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Did not do anything on this today except installing the column grommet and removing it after taking the photos, instead I changed the oil/filter in my 521 kingcab as I am going to drive up to Anacortes WA tomorrow to pick up a telescope, 4+ hours of driving each way, I must be insane!
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Post by wayno » Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:11 pm

Well I made it back without getting in a wreck, 255 miles each way and I averaged 68.9 miles per hour, on the way up I figured I was pushing it as I got out late and got there at exactly 12 noon which is what I was shooting for, on the way home everyone else was driving like they were late so i went with the flow.

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Post by HRH » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:52 pm

Cool!

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