1962 Datsun U320

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Re: 1962 Datsun U320

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I'll see if Zach or Levi happen to still have this #.
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Zach doesn't have it. I'll keep looking.
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Re: 1962 Datsun U320

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draker wrote:Zach doesn't have it. I'll keep looking.
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Re: 1962 Datsun U320

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I put new nuts in the nut holders that needed them, ran a tap through the rest of the original nuts, then put all the upper box trim in position.
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I am not sure how this piece fits in here, but it has something to do with the box cover.
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Didn't do much today, went golfing instead. :)

Basically I am putting this back together, once running and driving, I will tear it down again and start fixing everything to get it ready for paint and such, I am not happy about the driverside door, it seems the outer skin has been replaced from the trim line down.
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That line you see above is where it is separating.
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I have another set of doors, not sure what I am going to do yet.
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I pulled apart the carb again this morning, pulled everything I could find to clean, found a couple more things I did not see yesterday, well whatever I did worked, the engine ran good for the first time.
So I decided to try and run the engine today for an extended period of time, so I put the fan on it, found the old upper hose, and made the lower hose, I ran a hose from the water pump outlet for the heater core to the back of the head, then seen a outlet on the bottom of the radiator, I got under there and seen where that one was supposed to go.
The outlet on the bottom.
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It connects to the frame under the radiator, found the the hose and puhed it onto the outlet.
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And the drain valve itself.
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Here is the engine compartment.
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Then I connected the exhaust head pipe, which did a lot of leaking at first till I found the sweet spot.
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Then I made my own temporary muffler system, it's the non moving vehicle type of muffler, a CAT. :lol:
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So after I started filling it with water, I ran into an issue, the thermostat housing had a leak, so I tried tightening the bolts but that did not work, so then I removed it, there was a washer just laying there where the gasket was supposed to be, I removed that and seen the one bolt was ruined, so I found another, I chased the hole with a tap, and then put it back together, it still has a leak around the bolt, but it was very small, and I was not going to put a cap on the radiator, so I finished filling it up and started the engine, it ran roughly for a few minutes and then died, but I had time to time it, the freaking distributor gave up again, that was the last straw, I didn't have anything to lose, so I grabbed that home made pertronix EI thing I made a few days ago and dropped it in there, hit the starter and it ran, I was so happy, I had to adjust the housing timing as I was kinda off, could not advance it, but these distributors can be adjusted, and then I was good to go but I shut it down and rode my bike to Baxters and bought some gear lube and filled the transmission, then I ran the engine for close to an hour, adjusted the timing again, tuned it with the fuel mixture screw, and turned the idle down to the point it started getting rough, it ran great, I had to keep filling the bowl with fuel with a bottle, but I could do that while it was running.
It runs good now, so maybe I will look at the clutch tomorrow, see if I can get it working, I also am going to have to drop the fuel tank, check the inside, and clean it out if I have to, then pipe it to the engine and see if that fuel pump on the engine works, if it doesn't, ken had a couple more of them in boxes, one looks new. :)
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I got a little more done today, I now have a functioning clutch, I started the engine, used the clutch and put it in every gear without any issues, all gears worked without making any noise, but there was no resistance, that can only be done by actually driving it, but it looks good so far.
I actually bolted the transmission mounts done also.
I am going to need to do the fuel system next I think, then maybe see if I can hook up the wires to the engine, see if I can make the electrical system work, I am kinda hoping that when I get all the wires connected, it will just work.
:lol: We all have dreams :lol:

I also un-jammed the choke cable this evening without breaking it.
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I didn't read everything, but I'm caught up for the most part. Sweet score Wayne!!
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mklotz70 wrote:I didn't read everything, but I'm caught up for the most part. Sweet score Wayne!!
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I've been a member for awhile, but I hardly follow/post ratsun anymore.....no time to follow much else. But....I definitely wanted to follow this one. Anyway....I'm on here if guys want to contact me through here instead of ratsun. :)
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mklotz70 wrote:I've been a member for awhile, but I hardly follow/post ratsun anymore.....no time to follow much else. But....I definitely wanted to follow this one. Anyway....I'm on here if guys want to contact me through here instead of ratsun. :)

Ah yeah I see that now! I before I just say the 1 post.. and assumed you just joined.


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Wow man. Just saw this thread today. That thing is cool. Love seeing the progress on this lol
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Things have taken a large step backwards today, the dist. is bad again, somehow the electronic ignition got smoked, and I cannot get a points distributor to work, I am starting to burn out on this dist. thing, I am tired of it.
I ordered another pertronics EI, and will try it once again, but it's getting old fast.
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do you think there is something wrong with the electrical system itself pushing to much power to the dizzy causing it to burn out?

I know they are old, and one you kinda just winged it on... but strange it just burned out like that. Does it have the little hei type thing in there still?
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I am not totally sure what I did, but I did connect the ignition wire to the coil, and I did accidentally touch the main power wire going to the alternator to the alt housing, and it sparked a little, but I was holding the wire, the key was not on, but the ign. light was on even though the key was not in the on position, it was almost a $100.00 fuck up.
For now I am going to try and make another EI distributor and keep it isolated from the rest of the system, I was considering using a relay to put power to the coil, that way when the key is off(no power to relay), then the distributor is isolated from the rest of the wiring harness.
I hope this is why the engine will not run, I made a points distributor, and had spark, but the engine would not run, so maybe the carb is screwed up again, I keep having to fight the same things over and over, and it just gets old.
I have a running J15 just sitting in my shed, and I believe it will bolt right in, not sure if it will bolt to the column shift transmission though, would have to dig it out and put them side by side to see, but then the numbers will not match, this will never be a daily driver, so it would be nice if it was stock, but I am getting tired of doing the same shit over and over, I thought I had it fixed, I ran the thing almost an hour, I would guess I have 10 hours into trying to get this engine to run now because of the carb and the distributor.
I have bought some stuff for it, spark plug wires, cap & rotor, but except for the wires, all the rest of the stuff won't fit, the dist. cap/rotor are seeming to be very hard to find, I know someone that has what I need, but they are very sick.
It's not going to happen right away, I have lots to do, so I will work on something else for a while, I need to do the brakes all around, the e-brake needs put back together, I need to do the gas tank/lines, the doors need the window winders put back in,
it needs the heater box put back in and piped, and then the part I look forward to doing, wiring. :)
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Taking a break and working on something else is a good plan. I'm not sure I follow the logic of swapping in the J15 unless there's a mechanical problem. If it's either ignition or fuel related (or both) you'll get it sorted out eventually. When we were getting my brother's 520 up and running we ended up using an A-series carb on a homemade adapter since we couldn't locate a kit for the original carb at the time. Once it was running we were having intermittent ignition failure. Turned out that the wire from the coil to the points was broken internally and would lose continuity occasionally. You'll probably find it's something simple. Finding it is always the hard part.
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Re: 1962 Datsun U320

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can you post a pic of your carb, the other side. I was going to look yesterday but got a little busy.

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not sure what these carbs are for but they look very close to yours.
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this one is on my 68 wagon.
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I won't be using these carb's since their not for a 510 so they can be had.
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Re: 1962 Datsun U320

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I actually got it running again today, but thankyou for looking at them carbs for me, they have an electric choke, so they are much newer.
It's not my carb that is the issue, it's the distributor, so I cut up another pertronics module assembly, installed it in the dist. that had the other one that I smoked, and it started right up, it really baffles me that I can have spark at TDC in a points distributor, and it won't run, but when I use an EI setup, it runs great, I am just baffled by this.

I have a question for everyone, so I have this EI setup in the distributor again that works, it has 2 wires, red to the pos side of the coil, black to the neg side of the coil, when I want to start it, I add a hot lead to the pos side of the coil from the pos side of the battery, my question is, when I remove the hot lead from the battery to the pos side of the coil, is the EI system isolated now, or are the wires being connected to the coil, which is grounded make it a circuit?
I ask just in case I accidentally touch something again and make a spark, I don't need to be smoking the EI again, that was expensive to replace.
Do I need to remove the wires from the coil when I am trying to figure out the wiring harness?
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Ni10 wrote:can you post a pic of your carb, the other side. I was going to look yesterday but got a little busy.

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I wonder what happened to my post of the photos of the carb, I must have screwed up and not posted it after I wrote it all up, here are the photos of my carb.
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I worked on the fuel system today, I dropped the tank, I removed the sender and tested it, it worked fine, I also inspected the tank, it was rust colored everywhere, so I put the sender in the tank I cleaned up for the NL320 but did not use, as when I inspected that NL320 tank, it was fine.
I tried blowing air through the gas line, but it was plugged somewhere, so I removed that also, then ran a speedo cable inside it and found the plugged spot, I spun the cable while pushing and cleared the bad spot, blew air through it, then put gas in it and blew more air through it, put it all back together, put an inline fuel filter in, then looked at the fuel pump.
The fuel pump on it was old, and I had a new one that came with the vehicle, so I removed the old one and put the new one on, these fuel pumps are cool, they come with a primer lever, I pumped on that lever after I put 4 gallons of fuel in the tank, I had fuel in no time at all, it was amazing.
Here are photos of the old pump that I will be rebuilding if I can find the parts.
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Once I got the fuel to the pump, I put the line going to the carb on, then hooked everything up to start it, and the damned thing would not start again, the freaking thing was running yesterday, so I knew something other than the distributor was up, so I got the timing light out again, no spark.
I changed nothing, so I pulled the cap to look for moisture, it was dry, but I cleaned the inside anyway, tried again, just backfiring and igniting the exhaust system, it actually blew the pipe off, so I pulled the cap again after trying to start it, that time I noticed an arc from the coil wire to the cap, well it seems that the cap was so dirty, that it was shorting out, I scrapped on the cap for 15 minutes, and used PB blaster, and cleaned it some more, scraped with a screwdriver, when it was as good as I could get it, I also cut the coil wire off where it was arcing and put it back in it's hole, then I put the assembly back on the engine again, and it started, now one would ask why I didn't put a new cap on it in the first place, well I cannot find one, I have been searching everyday, eventually I will find a source and buy about 3 or 4 of them, but until then I have to use what I have.
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